Thursday, September 30, 2004

Forgotten Skills

I think this picture depicts Elway's career.As a matter of fact it is probably one of the best pictures I've ever seen of John Elway. That bright orange jersey, both fists pumped in the air and of course them big ass horse teeth. There are a couple of things I've noticed about Jake Plummer and pretty much all of the NFL quarterbacks today. The little things, the small plays that either bail you out of good field position or the plays that get points on the board. Here are a few that perhaps you even forgotten but when I remind you of them you will agree these are forgotten skills.

1)Off-sides,thank you, 6 - I swear Elway must have thrown half of his touchdowns off of opposing teams going off-sides. It was when a defensive player would go off-sides and the ref would throw a flag because it was too late to blow the whistle and the DB's would freeze up and Elway would hit a receiver deep for 6. I don't think I've ever seen Plummer try for a deep one, I mean what the hell do you have to lose, it's no fun just throwing a wimpy toss to your tight end or running back, go for it all!

2)The ole Elway-Reeves Pooch Punt - I was at the opener this year at Invesco field against the Kansas Shitty Chiefs and my buddy James made a comment after the Broncos went 3 and out and ended up punting from their own 10 yard line for the 5th or so time in the game. It was 3rd and a mile and the Broncos were on there own 8 yard line and my buddy James screams out "Do The Ole Elway-Reeves Pooch Punt"! and everyone in our section agreed and we got the stadium to start chanting "Elway-Reeves!, Elway-Reeves!, Elway-Reeves!" okay just kidding that didn't happen, but our whole section did agree. Anyway why don't the Broncos do that is what I'm asking myself, why don't I see any of the QB's today doing that. I mean you could really get some good defensive field position like that. I guess that is just another forgotten skill of Elway.


Blogger Steve said...

1) This is probably because Elway had the capabilities of calling his own plays. Unfortunately, Plummer has yet to prove himself to Shannahan or to the city of Denver, so he must run what is called. Not to many any excuses for Plummer, but I do believe Denver needs to take a deep shot every now and then when an off sides is called. It just takes a very smart receiver, smart QB, smart offensive lineman to be able to notice this.

2) You keep talking about the famous skills of Elway. Lets be honest, only a handful of other QB's even come close to ranking as high as Elway as far as his athletism is concerned. All of which are retired and in the HOF (with the exception of Marino). The game these days has changed, not sure if Elway could have enjoyed the same success now as he did then. Not saying he couldn't have, but what he was able to pull off might not come so natural in the playing days of today. I could see Plummer doing the pooch-punt left footed and then pulling a Brian Griese and saying he sprained it.

11:25 AM  
Blogger RED said...

Haa haa! I can see that possibly happening.
Thanks for the input.

11:45 AM  
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3:47 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

I will have to agree with you by saying that is a classic Elway picture. That photo should be hung next to his molded head in the HOF. Which is also surrounded by pictures from "The Drive" as well as holding up that 1st Super Bowl trophy!

3:48 PM  
Blogger quest4facts said...

I remember when John Elway was in college, wait, no I don't--I was in diapers. But when I did watch him play for the Broncos in the mid 80's I was amazed at what I saw. He ran like a running back, he threw the ball faster and farther than anyone I have ever seen, and he was a Leader. To me that was the single most important attribute that John Elway had. His Leadership. His presence alone made people better. He took average offenses and made them believe they were great. He took average teams and made them believe that they were super.

5:02 PM  
Blogger RED said...

I couldn't agree more with ya Rich. Elway defines leadership to a tee.

5:14 PM  
Blogger LanceK said...

A lot of people wish to see what they saw with the man who has the touch of god in his arm. That kind of arm strength and determination to make every throw possible does not exist and systems are set up not to let QB's do that. A pooch punt come on maybe around midfield but not deep in your own territory. It is also a waste of an offensive play. Plummer did heave one up lelie caught it maybe that is a first of more to come. Elway can never be reincarnated nor can anyone come close.

9:48 PM  
Blogger Joshua said...

You guys keep saying that there isn't a Qb that can do it today?!?!?! Ther is one hell of a QB that Elway had to face and said that he was afaid of what he might be able to make happen. And to Elways credit was a Game in which All the so called experts said he couldn't compete in. The game Greenbay vs Denver One of the best superbowls I've seen.The QB I'm Talkin bout is Bret Favre. He is the last of a dying breed, YES But he's still playing.

Elway was one the best, But you have to look at him completely. For all the great Come back drive I've seen and all the last minute heroics there are all those stupid plays that drove people nuts untill '97'. That was the year it all finaly gelled. EElway had one of the best arms ever in football history but not always the best awarness. Yeah he could scramble and run, But untill the last three years everyone ( All of us in this blog too. If not than you're lieing to save face.)Cringed alittle cuase you didn't know if he was going to hit smith or natiel or johnson deep,across the middle whatever. Or if he was going to flub the pass and hit Saeu roming the middle or Derrick Thomas.

I thinks it's going to be a while befor greatness does show it self like Elway or Marino or god forbid Jim Kelly. But then again it took awhile for the class of 83 to show in the first place.

We have the making's of a great future in the Qb's we have now. Manning will desroy all pasing records if he can keep it up. Hasselback has a chance to create some great numbers aswell' if his recievers can hold on to the damn ball. And Vick is still redefining the QB position. Brady will gfo down as aone of the greats if he can keep it going aswell, Not flashy but the guy get's it done!

But alas even with the talent today Elway will be forever missed in Denver. I say Denver becuase the people in Cleveland, Pittsburg, Greenbay and Atlanta wish he was never born! But with the passing of the old comes the coming of the new. Plummer has a great skill just needs time to refind it in Denver. This man single handedly brought Arizona to the playoffs! ARIZONA!!!! If he can get THAT back he'll show us what we miss in ole Jonny boy.

6:02 PM  
Blogger Joshua said...

I have to agree aswell That's one of the best pics for him. The only one I like better is his dive in mid air. Pulling off the old helicopter!!

6:04 PM  
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